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N1 Lesson 1: 10/17

までもない

There is no need to, Do not have to, It is not necessary to, Needless to

While までもなくて is also used、 it is less common than までもなく

Structure

More common patterns:
Verb[る]+ までもない
Verb[る]+ までもなく + Phrase

Less common patterns:Verb[る]+ までもなく + Phrase

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About までもない

までもない is a grammar pattern that consists of the particle まで 'until', the adverbial particle も, and ない 'there is not'. This structure will primarily be seen with a translation similar to 'there is no need to (A)', or 'it is not necessary to (A)'. However, a more literal translation of 'it is not so far as to (A)' is also completely acceptable, and still carries the correct nuance.
までもない will be used following verbs in their dictionary form, and may or may not have a part (B) explaining why (A) is not necessary.
  • (いた)いけど、(うび)全部(ぜんぶ)ちゃんと(うご)くから病院(びょういん)()までもない(おも)う。
    Although it hurts, all my fingers move properly so there is no need to go to the hospital.
  • 息子(むすこ)()て、(なに)(わる)いことをしたと()かった。()までもなかった
    I could tell that my son did something bad by just looking at him. It was not necessary for me to ask anything.
  • あの(ひと)ならなんとかしてくれるよ。心配(しんぱい)するまでもないよ。
    Knowing that person, they would probably do something about it. There is no need to worry.
As can be assumed by the use of まで, the primary nuance of までもない is that while there may be some sort of slight issue or problem, the speaker does not consider it as being something that has reached a point that is worth being concerned about. It may also indicate that because something is obvious, it does not need to be confirmed, etc.
Caution
When coming between an (A) and a (B) phrase, the conjunctive form までもなく will be used, but this is less common.
  • ()までもなく不法(ふほう)投棄(とうき)近所(きんじょ)(ひと)迷惑(めいわく)しています。
    It goes without saying that illegal disposal of garbage is causing troubles to the people in this neighborhood.

Examples

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    あのね......そんごくうはクリリンなんかとは(くら)べるまでもなく、それどころかベジータよりもずっと(つよ)いんだから。

    Hey, there is no need to compare Goku to someone like Krillin, because he is far stronger than Vegeta.

    先生(せんせい)は、すでに(すべ)解説(かいせつ)したので()までもない

    There is no need to ask questions because the teacher has already explained everything.

    この試験(しけん)(むずか)しさから(かんが)えると、試験(しけん)結果(けっか)発表(はっぴょう)()までもなく(あき)らかだ。

    Judging from this exam's difficulty, the results are clear without the need to see them.

    ゆきちゃん:「さきちゃん、あれはひどかったよ。」
    さきちゃん:「あんな(やつ)なら、(やさ)しくするまでもない。」

    Yuki: 'Saki, that was cruel.'
    Saki: 'If it's a guy like that, there is no need to be friendly.'

    (いま)さら訂正(ていせい)するまでもなく(あき)らかに間違(まちが)っている。」

    'There is no need to correct it, it is clearly wrong.'

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