Grammar Info

N2 Lesson 2: 4/24

以上(いじょう)にMore than, No less than, Even more

Structure

Verb + 以上(いじょう)に
［い］Adjective + 以上(いじょう)に
［な］Adjective + 以上(いじょう)に
Noun + 以上(いじょう)に
以上(いじょう) + の + Noun

Details

  • Standard

About 以上に

Like other structures that include 以上(いじょう) 'beyond', 以上(いじょう)に highlights that (A) is beyond some specific extent. In this grammar pattern, the case marking particle に will indicate the word that 以上(いじょう)に is attached to as an amount.

With (A) being considered as 'beyond' something, 以上(いじょう)に can be translated as 'more than (A)', or 'even more than (A)'.以上(いじょう)に may be used after verbs, い-Adjectives, な-Adjectives, or nouns in their standard forms.

Occasionally, に may be replaced by の when a specific amount or quantity is being indicated with a second noun. The noun attached to の may not always obviously be an 'amount', but it is something that the speaker is 'measuring' in regard to (A).

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Examples

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  • 天気(てんき)は予想(よそう)以上(いじょう)に悪(わる)かった。

    The weather was worse than I thought.

  • 彼(かれ)には思(おも)った以上(いじょう)の人生(じんせい)がある。

    He has more of a life than I thought.

  • 彼女(かのじょ)は、競馬(けいば)以上(いじょう)に競輪(けいりん)が好(す)き。

    She likes bicycle racing more than horse racing.

  • お父(とう)さんのギャグは、僕(ぼく)のギャグ以上(いじょう)にくだらない。

    My father's jokes are more stupid than mine.

  • 彼(かれ)は、カーブ以上(いじょう)にシュートをよく投(な)げる投手(とうしゅ)です。

    He is a pitcher who throws screwballs more than curve balls.

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      以上に – Grammar Discussion

      Most Recent Replies (5 in total)

      • Juppy

        Juppy

        Thank you so much! I kept thinking “isn’t it just 好きじゃない” so I was really thrown off by the なん.

        This actually stems from my persistent weakness in using ん because I keep brushing it off as “unnecessary” to convey my message. Zzzz.

      • wrt7MameLZE33wlmpCAV

        wrt7MameLZE33wlmpCAV

        For the given example sentence

        彼かれは思おもった以上いじょうの人生じんせいがある
        He has more of a life than I thought.

        does というより also work, or does that have a difference nuance to it?

      • Fuga

        Fuga

        Hey @wrt7MameLZE33wlmpCAV, sorry for the late reply !

        というより would not work here. Although というより and 以上に can be translated as ‘more of a… than a…’, というより has the nuance of ‘rather than saying…’ and used when comparing something. 以上に has the nuance of ‘more than’, as in ‘more than or equal to’. So, replacing it would make both the Japanese and the English sentence sound unnatural.

        彼は思ったというより人生がある。
        Rather than saying that he thought, he has a life.

        I hope that clears it up!

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