Grammar Info

N2 Lesson 6: 5/20

抜(ぬ)きでWithout, Unless

抜きでは can be contracted to 抜きじゃ.

Structure

Noun + 抜(ぬ)きで(は)
Noun + 抜(ぬ)きに(は)
Noun + を + 抜(ぬ)きにして(は)
Noun + は + 抜(ぬ)きとして(は)
Noun + 抜(ぬ)き + の + Noun

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About 抜きで

抜(ぬ)きで, a combination of the noun form of the う-Verb 抜(ぬ)く 'to extract', and the particle で, is a construction that usually indicates something being done 'without (A)', or 'with the removal of (A)'. As ぬき indicates the extraction of something, this grammar pattern is primarily used to indicate 'leaving out', or 'setting aside' something that is regularly included.

抜(ぬ)きで acts as a suffix, so will be utilized after nouns, to indicate the thing that is being left out. Both the plain hiragana and kanji forms are fairly common. Additionally, の will replace で when ぬき is followed directly by another noun.

Occasionally, にして may also replace で, but this is structure is more common when the part (B) section of the sentence includes a ない or できない based statement. These expressions indicate that something 'will not happen without (A)', or 'is not possible without (A)'.

However; this is not always the case, as ぬきで or ぬきでは may also appear in negative sentences, with the same meaning.

Examples

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    リスク抜(ぬ)きには決(けっ)してフグを食(た)べられない。

    You can never eat fugu without risk.

    「クソ、渋滞(じゅうたい)だ。あいつら、パーティーをオレ抜(ぬ)きで始(はじ)めそうだ。」

    'Damn, a traffic jam. It seems that they will start the party without me.'

    「食(た)べれる」のような「ら」抜(ぬ)きの言葉(ことば)は人気(にんき)になっている。

    Words without 'ら', like '食べれる' are getting more popular.

    C：「AとBは付(つ)き合(あ)ってんのよ」D：「マジ！？冗談(じょうだん)抜(ぬ)きで？」

    C: 'A and B are dating!' D: 'Whaa? No kidding? (without joking)'

    夫婦(ふうふ)の会話(かいわ)：「子供(こども)抜(ぬ)きでどこか面白(おもしろ)いところに行(い)こう！」

    A conversation between a married couple: 'Let's go somewhere fun, without the children!'

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抜きで – Grammar Discussion

Most Recent Replies (4 in total)

  • Fuga

    Fuga

    Thank you for letting us know about this! It seems like the link has been replaced!

  • Maykeye

    Maykeye

    I’m confused. Structure mentions “Noun + 抜( )きに(は)”
    Explanation doesn’t provide anything about に(only mentions にしては), hinative mentions no difference,

    However

    お寿司()屋()さん：「ご注文()はお決()まりですか？」お客()さん：「はい、マグロのにぎりをワサビ___お願()いします。」

    rejectes ぬきに and provides no clarification why

  • Fuga

    Fuga

    Hey @Maykeye !

    Although the person on hinative says they are the same, the nuance of 抜きで and 抜きに is different due to the difference in nuance between に and で.

    Since で is a particle used to highlight something that is ‘required’ to reach some kind of goal, 抜きで sounds more natural with this sentence because the customer is asking the chef to make a nigiri ‘by’ not using わさび.

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