Grammar Info

N3 Lesson 2: 6/22

ば~程(ほど)The more…the more

The conditional part of the structure is sometimes omitted. この豆を食べれば食べるほど痩せるらしい。→ この豆を食べるほど痩せるらしい。

Structure

(Verb[ば])+ Verb [る](*) + ほど
([い]Adjective[ば])+ [い]Adjective(*) + ほど

([な]Adjective + なら(ば))+ [な]Adjective(*) + な + ほど
([な]Adjective + であれば)+ [な]Adjective(*) + である + ほど

(Noun + なら(ば))+ Noun(*) + ほど
(Noun + であれば
)+ Noun(*) + である + ほど

(*) The same Adjective, Verb or Noun has to be repeated

Details

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About ば〜ほど

ば~ほど is a combination of the conjunction particle ば, and the noun ほど. It is used in a similar way to 'the more ~ the more' in English. Literally, it just highlights that 'if it is (A), then the limit of (A) will be controlled only by its extent'.

To use ば~ほど, ば will be paired with the hypothetical form of any verb/い-Adjective (or noun/な-Adjective with なら on the end), before the same word will be repeated in its attributive form. After this, a (B) part of the sentence will highlight what the expected result of (A) is.

As である (the formal version of だ) may replace な with な-Adjectives (or なら with nouns), sometimes である will be used instead of な/なら, in regard to both nouns and な-Adjectives.

Caution

When this expression is used with する verbs, the noun that する is linked to in the ば part of the sentence does not need to be repeated in the ほど part.

Fun Fact

Sometimes, the ば 'hypothetical' part of the sentence will be omitted altogether, leaving ほど to perform a similar function by itself.



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Examples

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  • この豆(まめ)を食(た)べれば食(た)べるほど痩(や)せるらしい。

    I hear that the more of these beans you eat, the thinner you will become.

  • 早(はや)ければ早(はや)い程(ほど)いい。

    The sooner the better.

  • 綺麗(きれい)ならば綺麗(きれい)なほど見(み)続(つづ)けたくなる。

    The more beautiful it is, the more I want to continue looking at it.

  • 勝(か)てば勝(か)つほど、またやりたくなる。

    The more you win, the more you want to play again.

  • 勉強(べんきょう)すればする程(ほど)、日本語(にほんご)が上手(うま)くなる。

    The more you study, the better you will be at Japanese.

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ば〜ほど – Grammar Discussion

Most Recent Replies (22 in total)

  • steffuld

    steffuld

    勉強すればする程ほど、日本語が上手くなる。
    If [you] study, [your] Japanese gets good to the extent that [you] study.

    God, this makes so much more sense now! At first I tried to translate it as

    If you study, your Japanese gets so good that you study. (What?)

    Meaning that first your Japanese gets good and, as a consequence of that, you study.

    I think at first I got the wrong idea that the part preceding ほど is always the result/consequence of something. As in:

    死ぬほど練習した。
    I practiced myself to death.
    (I 練習する and, as a consequence of that, I 死ぬ)

    涙が出るほど嬉しい。
    I am so happy that I could cry.
    (I am 嬉しい and, as a consequence of that, I 涙が出る)

    But here it’s the other way around: first you study to some extent and, as a consequence of that, your Japanese gets better.

  • nKaplan

    nKaplan

    Yeah so I cannot wrap my head around this translation at all…
    this is such a confusing topic

  • prettyshields

    prettyshields

    in the grammar dictionary the formation for na-adjectives was listed as na-adjective 1 であればある na-adjective 2 なほど as one of the two ways to form the structure and that is not on the site… I tried entering it in accordance with the examples from the book and it marked me as wrong. it worked for na-adjective 1 なら na-adjective 2 なほど which was good at least.

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