Grammar Info

N3 Lesson 2: 22/22

(てん)

Aspect, Respect, Point, Way, In terms of, In that, From the point of view

Structure

Verb + (てん)(で)
[い]Adjective + (てん)(で)
[な]Adjective + + (てん)(で)
Noun + + (てん)(で)
Phrase + という + (てん)(で)

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About 点

(てん) is a kanji that is regularly used to express a specific 'point', 'spot', 'aspect', or something similar. When attached to the end of the attributive form of another word, it will highlight that word as a point of interest within the sentence. This is regularly translated as 'from the aspect of (A)', 'in respect to (A)', 'in terms of (A)', and other similar phrases that simply draw attention to something.

To use (てん), attach it to the attributive form of another word, a noun followed by の, or a phrase followed by という. In many cases, (てん) will be followed by the case marking particle で, but other particles may be used depending whether (てん) is being conveyed as a subject, object, destination, or something being utilized.

Sometimes, で (as 'with' or 'at') may be replaced with expressions such as について 'in relation to (A)', or からいうと 'speaking from (A)'. So long as the grammar structure that accompanies (てん) is also used to highlight something specific (and can be paired with a noun), it will sound natural.

Examples

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    この(てん)そのスマホの(ほう)がいいですよ。

    In this respect, that smartphone is better.

    英語(えいご)あらゆる(てん)日本語(にほんご)(ちが)っている。

    English differs from Japanese in all respects. (all points)

    (なん)らかのアクションが必要(ひつよう)であるという(てん)(そう)株主(かぶぬし)(みと)めた。

    All shareholders agreed on the point that some action is needed.

    いくつか(てん)韓国語(かんこくご)やトルコ()日本語(にほんご)()ている。

    In some respects, Korean and Turkish are similar to Japanese.

    (かれ)はちょっと(わす)れっぽいという(てん)(かれ)(ちち)(おな)じだね。

    In terms of being a bit forgetful he is just like his father, right?

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      点 – Grammar Discussion

      Most Recent Replies (7 in total)

      • Christophegand

        Christophegand

        Yeah. Thank you.
        I do feel stupid now because the answer was in the explanation

        Maybe I was mislead by the phrase:
        “In all cases, 点 must be followed by the 格助詞 で.”

        Which is not totally true, because later on the explanation states that で can be replaced

      • Schuylerca

        Schuylerca

        don’t think you were stupid I think that bp should revise this a little -

        Having some issues understanding this as well and thought “ALWAYS” ok but then wait exceptions. And what’s worse is there is an example

      • pasi

        pasi

        This grammar point does seem to have exceptionally difficult training sentences early on.

        First two sentences had grammar I wasn’t familiar with (like 何()らか) and then you have sentences with 忘()れっぽい (which I believe is a grammar point that comes later), etc.

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