Grammar Info

N3 Lesson 8: 12/23

()いて

In, On, At, Regarding, In terms of

For why におく and においた are not used to modify nouns, click here.

Structure

Noun + おいて
Noun + における (1) + Noun

(1)おいて

Details

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    Formal

About において・における

において is a combination of the case marking particle in, and the 接続語(せつぞくご) (conjunction) おいて. Either ()いて, or ()ける may be used, with no difference in meaning. において itself is usually translated as 'at', 'in', 'on', or 'regarding'.

において (or における) will be used after nouns, or when connecting one noun to another. In the case of connecting one noun to another, における, or においての will be required.

においての (and における) are primarily used in formal language, and will not commonly be used in daily speech.

Fun Fact

(ああ) is quite an interesting kanji, and has a meaning similar to 'within the scope of'. Basically, it highlights all possible things that exist within a given topic/space. This is what enables the very broad range of meanings that においての and における may be used for.

  • 日本(にほん)においての電車(でんしゃ)バスなし生活(せいかつ)(かんが)えられない
    Within the scope of Japan, it is impossible to think of a life without buses or trains.
  • 会社(かいしゃ)においての、パワハラについてミーティング(おこな)われた。
    A meeting was held regarding power harassment within the scope of our company.

Examples

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    (かず)()いて(おと)っているが、(ちから)()いて()けていない。

    Although we are fewer in numbers, we aren't losing in strength.

    大都市(だいとし)()ける渋滞(じゅうたい)問題(もんだい)深刻(しんこく)だ。

    The problem of traffic jams in big cities is serious.

    この文脈(ぶんみゃく)()いての「空」は、「そら」ではなく「から」だと(おも)う。

    I think this kanji is read 'kara' rather than 'sora' in this context.

    現代(げんだい)()いて電気(でんき)のない生活(せいかつ)(かんが)えられない。

    In this day and age, it is impossible to think of life without electricity.

    東京(とうきょう)()ける環境(かんきょう)についての会議(かいぎ)(おこな)います。

    A meeting concerning the environment will take place in Tokyo.

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      において・における – Grammar Discussion

      Most Recent Replies (19 in total)

      • Daru

        Daru

        Could you provide more feedback around what’s confusing you with the hints?

      • Madsgeltingbech

        Madsgeltingbech

        Can anybody help me to understand why I cannot use の点で for the following sentence? The correct answer is supposed to be において.

      • Dwrlesky

        Dwrlesky

        I also have a question about that same sentence.

        In my case I tried to use で言うと but it’s wrong. I was thinking along the lines “Speaking in numbers, we are fewer, but speaking in strength we won’t lose”.

        I guess I’m misunderstanding something? Also no idea why の点で is not useable.

        Some clarification would be much appreciated.

        • I thought about it again an 数で言うとは sounds kind of weird to me because of the は. Could I use it if the は is dropped?

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